1.0 THEME: EMPLOYMENT RECRUITMENT

Research with Discouraged Job Seekers revealed a distinction between what is needed to get a job and what is needed to do a job successfully. To meet our goal of getting a clear picture of the process that participants went through to end up as Discouraged Job Seekers, we felt it was important to separate these two aspects.

Employment services counselors can help a person change and improve their ability to be recruited for a job. We therefore refer to all the aspects of getting a job as Employment Recruitment: later we discuss those aspects of ‘doing a job’ in the section entitled Job Properties.

We define Employment Recruitment as the job search process that begins with how the employer recruits for a position and ends with a person being hired.

The phases of employment recruitment are:

1.  Identifying what jobs are available
2. 
Submitting resumes
3. 
Being interviewed
4. Finding out whether or not you got the job.

Summary of participants’Employment Recruitment barriers

1.1  Identifying what jobs are available

1.1.1  Difficulty with job advertisements: Job ads were confusing and unclear about requirements versus ideal qualifications

1.1.2  Credentialism: Participants with years of experience in jobs were excluded from them due to increasing demand for specific credentials, and the need for specific credentials was unclear

1.2  Submitting resumes

1.2.1  Not knowing how to deal with problems in their work histories, such as extensive gaps in their work life

1.2.2  “Dumbing Down”: Accepting that it could be helpful to remove qualifications from one's resume.

1.2.3  The inordinate amount of time it takes to redesign a resume for each job application, with little or no success.

1.3  Being interviewed.

1.3.1  A sense of disconnection between the skills it took to do a good interview, and the skills that are needed to produce well for an employer.

1.3.2  Interview structures that are intimidating: unexpected requests at interviews, e.g., being asked to produce documentation at the interview without knowing of the request in advance.

1.3.3  Finding out that the position went to someone known to the employer: The sense of hopelessness grew as the participants felt they fulfilled all the qualifications, did a good interview, and still did not get the job.

1.3.4  No alternative ways of demonstrating skills to the employer: Participants believed (and experienced) that their skills could be identified better if there were different ways that the employer could see their strengths. Opportunities where the employer could observe the participants actually performing the expected tasks, through training on the job, work placements, wage subsidies, were examples that participants gave.

1.4 Finding out whether or not you got the job: “The Void”.

Participants found themselves in a ‘void’ when it came to finding out what happened after they sent in their application. Participants rarely were informed of whether their application had been received, or if interviewed, that they had been the successful candidate or not.

DESCRIPTION OF EMPLOYMENT RECRUITMENT BARRIERS

Fred ....Not qualified, you’re over-qualified or under-qualified- you never fit. The whole thing just turns me off.

Not knowing how to ‘get in the door’ of potential employers was particularly discouraging to the participants we spoke to. They felt that if the employer could get a sense of the skills and strengths they possess, they might be offered a job.

Betty: There are lots of people who would make great employees if they were given the chance. Just because we do not fit the profile does not mean that we cannot do the job. Employers will not give us the chance.

Joan: If you don’t take me on into your environment, you’re the one that loses, because I’m very good at what I do.

1.1 IDENTIFYING WHAT JOBS ARE AVAILABLE                                                                                                                         

The statistic that 85%[1]of jobs are filled without being advertised was particularly daunting and disheartening to our participants. As discussed in other areas of this report their social networks usually do not have likely job contacts.

Emma: Oh yeah, but it is funny how your circle changes in life when you come brain injured, you have brain injured friends...The circles I travel in most of my friends aren’t working.

The lack of communication with people who are employed, as described in the social barriers, had a particularly profound effect in this theme – how to find out about jobs.

Eva: And that's what happened I left the system. You know how they say” don't leave your job until you get another job”? Well that's right because that's what happened to me. Getting back into it – you don’t have a backer anymore. When you’re with a company they know they want you, but I don’t have anyone doing that for me anymore because I’m out of the loop. I try to stay in it, network, but there’s no staff parties..., the co-workers always had something going on, you’re networking like crazy.

Participants we spoke to also knew or found out after the fact that many of the jobs advertised were not actually available.

Eva: I know that. (Many advertised jobs are already assigned) because when they posted my new contract, I had to apply for my job. They’d bring in others and they didn’t have a chance.

Employment counselors recommend creating a new resume for each job application. Participants found this particularly demoralizing when they went through this process for a position that had actually been filled already.

Leanne: It takes at least 3 hours to revamp my resume. They shouldn't take people's time if they already have someone for the job

1.1.1 DIFFICULTIES WITH JOB ADVERTISEMENTS                                                                             

Job ads were confusing, unclear regarding requirements versus ideal qualifications. Due to their particular challenge or disability, some found newspaper ads difficult, e.g., the different size fonts. For others the overall lack of clarity in any ad (through the job bank, on line, etc) was frustrating.

The use of a wide variety of terms to describe what the employer is looking for i.e., ‘required’, ‘preferred’, ‘desired’ led the participants to not know whether or not to apply for positions.

Lynne – (I go to the) Job bank, well that’s pretty much it...the newspaper is too much information for me and…. Ok cause I’m just goin’ down here, (looking at the qualifications) Ok so I could I could apply for that, but would just have to ignore that fact that I don’t know French...(and I’ve heard you don’t need French for all the positions) It’s too much clutter - It is because you don’t get much in a job application in the newspaper, of the requirements sort of thing.

At times participants had the essence of the skills required for jobs, but not the specific ones named. They did not apply, feeling it was a waste of time. However, additional information supplied by others let them know they may have been offered the position.

Jim: I didn’t think I was going to apply for that - they were asking for qualifications I didn’t have but then when my counselor actually talked to the employer about the job they’re like “no-no you don't need those qualifications” I’m like ‘but.. but that's not what you put in the ad...”

Comments about the lack of clear information for position requirements were frequent.

Sally: They sent me the application but they didn't tell me what the criteria were. And they didn't tell us whether or not I needed a Masters. They said I had to send in my application first.
I‘m not going to run around and get references and write an application if it's not even with the standards that they need. That would be kind of dumb.

Participants felt that the process did not allow the employer to identify who the best person was for the job

Betty: Most people looking for work cannot even get an interview because of their resume or cover letter. It seems the better you are at bull shitting (excuse that word, but I am very frustrated) the better your chances are of getting that interview. Just because you have a great impressive resume and cover letter does not mean you are a better employee.

1.1.2 CREDENTIALISM                                                                                                           

Many of our participants had years of experience but due to changing job criteria were barred from being considered for jobs that they had either successfully completed previously or knew they had the requirements for.

Leanne: I find it so frustrating. I have more training in the lab than medical technologists and yet I can't get a job doing that because I don't have the right certificate. I’ve done pre-med courses, but because I didn’t take a NSCC course, I can’t get a job in medical technology.

Others were bewildered by requirements that did not seem in line with the positions’ tasks.

Sally: So he had that job for a year (on contract) then when he applied for it permanent they told him that he needed to drive. He didn't have to drive any time during the year that he had the job.

Diane had struggled with math and geography and was unable to get her GED, and the necessary cosmetology certificate from the community college.

Diane: Why do I have to have Grade 12 for... cosmetology courses? – because you don’t use that (math and geography) in that area? People say if you don’t have Grade 12, (you get) no certificates.

1.2 SUBMITTING RESUMES                                                                                                                    

Identifying the best way to present your self in a resume is an area that was seen as very important and also a very confusing one. Those who had gone to employment support counselors were given different advice from different agencies.

1.2.1 NOT KNOWING HOW TO DEAL WITH PROBLEMS IN THEIR WORK HISTORY, SUCH AS EXTENSIVE GAPS IN THEIR WORK LIFE                                                                                                      

Most of our participants had a significant gap in their work history due to unplanned hardships such as recovering from car accidents, and care giving for an elderly relative. Such events, sometimes more than one occurring in rapid succession, had taken most participants away from the workplace for a considerable time. Their difficulty in knowing how to address the gap in their resume was frequently mentioned as a barrier to feeling confident about their job seeking skills and potential to be considered for a job.

Monica: I have a huge gap in my resume...There is no work history... there is 20 odd years you can't account for. When you give prospective employers resume they are immediately drawn right to it. They can't see anything else it doesn't matter how well your resume is written.

1.2.2  "DUMBING DOWN"; ACCEPTING THAT IT COULD BE HELPFUL TO REMOVE QUALIFICATIONS FROM ONE'S RESUME.                                                                                                                    

The applicant being under qualified, possibly not having the credentials for the job is one side of the challenges identified by Fred above. Being over qualified is the other side. A number of participants we interviewed had extensive qualifications in a wide variety of vocations. Choosing to exclude a number of these qualifications in a resume is often referred to as ‘dumbing down’. Deciding to do so - to remove recognition of qualifications that had required years of commitment and hard work was painful.

Rob: After spending a couple of years sending out my resume with all my qualifications and not getting a response I finally went to an employment service organization. They talked me into dumbing down my resume. I finally got it – employers are threatened by hiring someone with so many qualifications.

At times it was still an unsuccessful strategy.

Eva: So I'm sending out things, it doesn't have everything that I've done on it. And that's crazy! If I wasn’t laughing I’d be crying – it’s ironic. I’ve taken degrees off, .. I've taken my degrees off many many many many times. I tried that and people still say ‘you’re overqualified’.

1.2.3 THE INORDINATE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TOOK TO REDESIGN A RESUME FOR EACH JOB APPLICATION WITH LITTLE OR NO SUCCESS.                                                                               

Employment counselors recommend each job application should have an individually developed resume[2].

Eva: I have all the resumes – I’ll send you the file – and you can look for curiosity. I know I have to go through all my letters and resumes and to fit them just right for that particular job. It's just insane what you have to go through these days to get a job.

For those who had spent years being unemployed, and had learned that the hiring often is not open to new applicants, this expectation was not just exhausting, but wearing away their trust in employers

We had the opportunity to see many of the participants’ resumes. Many participants had significant talents and skills. Many had applied to hundreds of places over many years. The apparent loss to the business community is regrettable.

This ongoing process of putting out considerable energy and getting no recognition and no real sense of interest in their skills and talents was a part of the process that led participants to become ‘Discouraged Job Seekers’, rather than optimistic job seekers.

1.3 BEING INTERVIEWED                                                                                  

The interview process was at times frustrating for participants as many saw a disconnection between what was asked in the interview and their perception or experience of what a job entailed.

Jennifer: I find the interview process, especially for persons like me, really, really detrimental: they are set up for failure because you are trying to deal with these really narrow questions and it doesn't show you what the person is like with normal conversation at all.

Jennifer had communication problems, but was not applying for jobs that required significant communication skills – she was more highly technically skilled than many in her field, but knew she did not do well in interviews.

Betty: Employers hire the ones... who ace the interview. If each person were truly truthful in answering these questions in the interview some of us would actually get a chance of finding work.

The applicant not being told how to prepare for the interview, e.g., being asked apparently irrelevant questions, was a part of the interview process that did not allow participants to feel that the employer had the opportunity to see them as the best person for the position.

Jennifer: I'm terrible at job interviews. I'm really nervous. I don't have a lot of confidence. I know that that pours out of me. I know I can't disguise that. I think its fear on my part because they have so much power. They can choose whether to hire you are not, that's a tremendous amount of power and there is nothing you can do about it. All you can do is try to be positive and I don't know how to be positive with those things.

This may seem to reflect how many of us feel about job interviews. However for people who feel as if they are in a worse position from the beginning, it is particularly difficult.

Joan: Given my age and my disability, I know I’m not the best package out there.

1.3.2 INTERVIEW STRUCTURES THAT ARE INTIMIDATING                                                               

The specifics of how interviews were conducted struck us as being a barrier that could be addressed by employers fairly easily, if they were given feedback and support about how to do so. Being interviewed by more than one person for people who are not socially skilled was an extremely negative experience.

Terry: I feel like interviews are the Spanish Inquisition, with 5 or 6 people to one.

The information asked in interviews confused some participants and was contrary to helping them communicate the skills they brought to the position. Questions that were overly general such as “Tell us a bit about yourself” left some baffled regarding the amount of information to give.

Jennifer: The questions that employers ask in the past 6 years are ridiculous in my opinion

We were told of employers asking vague questions such as “If you were a cereal what kind would you be?” For people who were already emotionally fragile, sensing that they probably answered those questions ‘wrong’ reduced their confidence for the rest of the interview and troubled them even years later. They felt not doing well with such questions put them in such a state of confusion and panic that the employer was missing the opportunity for them to clearly demonstrate what skills they did have.

UNEXPECTED REQUEST AT INTERVIEWS.                                                                                     

Participants were asked to produce documentation that they weren’t informed about prior to the interview. This led them to feeling that they did not present themselves well.

Marg: Well I... answered the questions but I wasn't as... I wasn't as confident. I assessed the situation afterwards and I don't think I was as confident as I could've been.

Interviewer: So what would've helped you? What would've made it easier?

Marg: Well I had to have... I had to have certain requirements, it wasn't just IDs.

Interviewer: And did you know about that before you went into the interview?

Marg: No.

1.3.3 FINDING OUT THAT THE POSITION WENT TO SOMEONE KNOWN TO THE EMPLOYER.                 

Going through the resume submission and interview process and finding out that the person hired had special influence with the employer led to a strong a sense of cynicism. Due to the small and interconnected nature of Kings County, participants often found out who was offered positions they had been interviewed for.

Leanne: The smaller money or less that's out there those bits of ... money (to hire) they hold close to their chests and hire their best friend's son or daughter.

1.3.4 NO ALTERNATIVE WAYS OF DEMONSTRATING SKILLS TO THE EMPLOYER.                                         

The skills needed to get an employer’s initial interest, e.g., having excellent writing skills as demonstrated via submitting good resumes and cover letters, and communicating effectively during an interview, are skills that did not seem to be needed for many of the positions that participants were interested in. According to the Labor Market reports, they had marketable skills that employers seek, but not those that are focused on in the current employment recruitment process.

The lack of training on the job or apprentice programs that participants could enroll in, due either to the total lack of availability of these programs or their not having the appropriate credentials, frustrated them. Participants sensed that if the employer could see them performing the specific job related tasks well, they would be more likely to be considered for a job. One participant enrolled in a community college certificate course specifically in order to obtain this experience

Monica: There are two practicum. This gives you a chance to meet people. It gives you a chance to be working - that they see you, and what you can do.

1.4 “THE VOID"; FINDING OUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU GOT THE JOB                                     

For those we interviewed whose job searches extended for years, their lack of receiving any indication that their applications had been received and/or considered was devastating. Many had sent hundreds of resumes and received not one response. It felt as if all their energy was going into nothing, what they called a “void”. The negative impact was even more so if they attended interviews and were never informed of the employer’s decision.

“The Void” we refer to is a phenomenon that a number of people involved in employment services are aware of, and recognize the negative impact it has on job seekers.[3] In our recommendations we make several simple suggestions that could address some aspects of this cause of significant distress for job seekers, particularly those who have been looking for years.

Not knowing how their personal information was being dealt with by the employer also led to anxiety and a feeling of vulnerability.

Jennifer: If they let me know they’d received my resume, I would know where my personal information goes. It just gets socked away in the some black hole of bureaucracy. And I sent out my personal information on my resume- it goes to everywhere in the Valley. Who has it?

“The Void” we identify seemed to be part of a trend. Not long ago, it was standard to receive an acknowledgement of receipt of the resume, and receive a phone call or letter informing one of the success or not of a job interview.

On their side, employers tell us they are overwhelmed by the number of applications they receive for jobs they advertise and that they need a way to winnow down the numbers before dealing with the individual applicants. They felt they did not have time to individually respond to each application. However, the impact on vulnerable people who have few supports of not receiving any acknowledgement for their efforts (as we discuss in ‘social networks) is profound.

Going to an interview and receiving positive feedback during the interview, then not being offered the job, with no explanation is particularly distressing and confusing.

Leanne: There was me and the other girl left. She called me told me how amazing I did on that test – I should be working for Stats Canada. It was my training and experience of knowing how to find patterns. She told me that myself and the other girl we’re the only ones that passed the test and she wanted me to know how amazing my results were. I never heard from her again.

Not having any feedback regarding the application and interview process led to mental and physical health problems and feeling more and more hopeless in their job search.

Paula: The process of waiting to hear, out into nothingness – nothing to hear, month after month sending out applications, no indication of it being received, no interview. I found this process emotionally very difficult.

Paula had gone to three interviews in short succession and did not hear back from any employer that had interviewed her. When the time passed and she realized she was not being offered a position, she decided to let the employers know how offended she was. She spoke to them directly to ask for specifics of why she didn’t get the job. One had even called from the golf course: she realized she would not be considered for employment by them again, but was desperate to communicate her feeling of being treated so carelessly.

The Cumulative Effect

All the factors discussed above combined to lead participants to feel more and more discouraged. Not knowing what and how to change their approaches to deal with these parts of job seeking resulted in a number of those we interviewed withdrawing completely from the job hunt process, despite unquestionably still wanting to work. They had tried every which way they and the professionals they consulted with knew to communicate their skills and talents to the employer and felt they failed miserably. They had started by believing that they were the right person for the job and ended with no job offers, and extremely low self esteem.

One participant who had been actively looking for work for almost three years said:

Eva: My self-esteem these days is through the floor. And I work at it every day. I'm involved with a lot of non-work things - tried boxing, joined water colours, joined gardening club. To keep myself busy, have some balance. Help my family because I have the extra time. They are very grateful for that, but it’s not a good feeling.

Eva had retrained for a number of practical skills that are needed, but over the years the qualifications kept changing, and she had to move on to find other jobs.

Eva: I try not to look at it from a perspective of someone who is bitter and I certainly didn't from the beginning, but I have to admit that after the latest kick in the teeth ...it's hard not to start feeling that way. And I'm thinking “What should I do now”?

Jennifer voices what we heard from many: in spite of wanting work, being flexible, and using professional employment supports, looking for jobs without success leads to a feeling of hopelessness.

Jennifer: And so why bother? And after a while you just go “Why bother?”

RESPONSE FROM EMPLOYERS AND OTHERS                                                                                                                         

We conducted in-depth interviews with three employers. One worked in a small knowledge intensive manufacturing business with six employees, another operating in the assisted living industry and the last formerly in industrial agriculture with upwards of 100 employees at any given time. We recognize that it is not possible to generalize their responses to other employers: however, it is interesting that all three, despite having very different-sized operations and working in different industrial sectors, often had an almost identical response to some of the barriers we told them that the participants experienced.

Employers we spoke to were willing to consider other ways of recruiting. The concerns they had that would need to be taken into consideration were:

  How to effectively and efficiently deal with a significant number of applications,
  How to find a worker who is reliable, who has the essential work skills of accountability, promptness and integrity,
  The best way to identify whether the person would fit into their organization.

According to the employers we spoke to, some issues that participants believed would exclude them from consideration did not seem overly challenging. In particular, employers made helpful suggestions to assist participants in dealing with significant gaps in employment. The employers we spoke to also did not seem overly concerned with other issues that participants had identified as major barriers, such as not meeting specific requirements.

When we made suggestions about easy techniques that would help deal with “The Void” the employers we spoke to were keen to incorporate such suggestions. They are included in General Recommendations. Two of the employers asked for their input to be included in our research. We believe this positive attitude can be built on for implementation of some recommendations. It is important that recommendations reflect consideration of the needs of both job seekers and employers.

Regarding the barriers the participants identified, employment services workers agreed that there was an increasing level of credentials expected. One worker reminded us that the current Community College system which requires Grade 12 as a standard for enrolment, used to be the ‘vocational school’ system. That system was intended to train people who had difficulty with academics for trades: the system that has replaced it requires academic ability.

One of our primary mandates was to communicate the voices of participants. In order to accurately indicate recommendations made by participants, we have broken the recommendations down into two sections: Participants and Employers, employment support workers, and the researchers. At times there is repetition, but we believe it is important to distinguish the voices of the participants from others.

RECOMMENDATIONS FROM PARTICIPANTS                                                                                                    

Participants made suggestions about what would help and also told us about what they found successful.

Participants were as overwhelmed with the energy and time it took to apply for the number of jobs available as employers were by the applications they receive when they posted jobs.

Participants need help with the job ads to clarify the requirements vs. desired qualifications, or what the exact job is. Many found the ads confusing, cluttered and difficult to identify exactly what was needed. They felt someone who has experience with the local economy and employers and could help decode the ads would be helpful.

Lynne: (The good employment support worker Lynne had), always reminded me of Sherlock Holmes. I was looking at this job ad and she says “There is a lot of accounting in that job, now you said you weren’t good at math or particularly strong in math”. It said, “General office”, it didn’t say specifically that it was mainly accounting work.

The application process needs to be simplified and made clearer. Discouraged Job Seeker need to know what is a requirement or just a desired skill.

Discouraged Job Seekers need someone to help them build resumes and their awareness of what skills and assets they do have. Over the years of unsuccessful job seeking Discouraged Job Seeker have been made painfully aware of their deficits. They need a different pair of eyes to help them once again see their assets and strengths.

3 Discouraged Job Seeker want interviews or processes where they can feel comfortable and the focus is on the position.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Marg: (commenting on an interview where she was offered a job) ...there was just one there...the manager who was the one who interviewed me and he wasn't overbearing or anything, he knows his work, he knows what he's doing.

Discouraged Job Seekers want an opportunity to explain their particular situation, and strengths that come from it. This includes help explaining circumstances where the participant learned to effectively deal with their challenges, or to help the employer look beyond concerns such as a criminal record to see the changed person or identify whether it's relevant or not. The employer needs to be helped to see past any stigma they may have of the person’s condition.

Joan: I wish those in HR in companies could get past what is in their manuals when they look to hire people. Disabled people have capabilities and can be significant assets to companies if you approach hiring them in a different way... see the person for the ability not the disability and to see them as a whole person.

We can still work, we can still contribute and I think we are more well rounded because we have gone through this (illness).

Discouraged Job Seekers felt a support person, or a guide to help them with the interview process could help. Those who had experienced such were positive about this role.

Jennifer: They (Employment support workers) are hand holders – go with you to the interview, they’ll set up the employer to be prepared for my barriers, and all that. And I don't care what anyone says I think that's awesome. I don't have any pride (laughs) Pride is for suckers. I I'm not going to squander my chances…. say “I don't need my hand held because I totally do. That’s the only way to get people like me a modicum of success.

Employers we spoke to were open to the concept of an interviewee bringing in a support person. Very few participants had been given such opportunities locally.

RECOMMENDATIONS FROM EMPLOYERS AND THE RESEARCHERS                                          

Barrier 1.1: Identifying what jobs are available.

1.  Word of Mouth. According to our interviews, both participants and employers reluctantly use the commonly available ways to find out about jobs, such as the Government of Canada's job bank. For employers, such methods led to them receiving too many applications. For seekers, the descriptions were difficult to understand. It was felt that word of mouth is much more likely to result in appropriate and easy job placement.

2.  Reaching out. As indicated, social isolation for Discouraged Job Seeker is a concern. However creative thinking regarding who is part of the Discouraged Job Seeker’s circle may help identify possible job leads, e.g., a bus driver, staff at the Café one frequents.

3.  Showing Up. Employers and others involved in working with successful job seeking recommended a direct method. It was suggested that where jobs require low skills and have a high turnover job seekers regularly show up early at the place of employment daily, ready to work. Employers felt that indicated that the person had qualities they sought: an ability to be prompt and a commitment to work. We heard of positive results from this approach

4.  Establishing a temporary job agency or location. This was recommended by interviewees in all areas. Examples, utilizing a job finding club that already exists, a location where ride sharing could happen for seasonal workers. Caution about this option was voiced by those with considerable experience in this field. The vulnerability of Discouraged Job Seeker could be exploited.

Barrier 1.2: Submitting Resumes

Employers were critical of the sameness of resumes apparently produced by employment support services. Employers emphasized that a resume to demonstrate the matching strengths with the job was essential.

Submitting a resume as a step in the process appears to be integral when a regular job search is occurring. However, creativity and flexibility about its relevance and importance needs to be considered. That is, employers need to ask themselves if they can find ways to screen applicants in a more successful way and employment support people need to hear from employers exactly what it is that they're looking for.

Barrier 1.3: Being Interviewed

The interview process is one that we believe could be revised significantly and relatively easily. Unless there are organizational barriers such as a process mandated from a head office or a collective agreement. We ask employers to consider what it is they are looking for in an employee and use the interview time to assess those skills.

Here are some considerations for employers:

1.  To reduce anxiety:

A variety of approaches could help people challenged by the interview process, e.g., personality traits such as being more of a ‘doer’ rather than a ‘talker’, conditions such as autism; low self-esteem.

1.  Make the process as informal as possible.

2.  Change the title of the process. Asking the person to come in for a chat about the job or a pre-screening rather than calling it an interview. Being clear about what will be covered in the discussion is important to allow the applicant to prepare.

3.  Reduce the number of people present.

4.  Welcome an applicant’s support people to help ensure clear communication.

2.  To ensure the right skills are being assessed:

1.  Ask questions that are skills and job specific. The most frequent disconcerting aspect of interviews was questions which appeared to be completely unrelated to the job, e.g., “If you were an animal what kind would you be?” or “Tell us a bit about yourself.” For people who may have low social skills or who have not been in environments where creative thinking is utilized, it can add to their self-consciousness and increase their ability or inability to answer specific questions.

2.  Arrange for hands-on assessments if relevant and possible. After an initial brief session wherein the necessary identification for a good fit occurs, have the applicant tour the facility, and possibly spend time with workers learning the task.

3.  To find out the strengths of character/qualities that lead to hiring good employees:

1.  Ask about their volunteering experiences. Listen for what are also good employee attitudes: teamwork, problem solving, and understanding of accountability process.

2.  If they have needs for accommodation and are open about it ask how they would be implemented AND for suggestions on what works and doesn’t work for them.

4.  Alternative ways to find out skills that fit the employer

1.  Wage subsidies, training on the job, job placement options exist, but do not seem to be used as extensively as they could. Positions that are more technically oriented should be open to assessment processes that focus on this is one rather than the general interviews as cited above as barriers. Please see the “local success story” section immediately below for some options

Barrier 1.4: Finding out if you got the job or not.

This area was the one that we believe can be relatively easily addressed and could remedy some of the experience of “The Void” that is such a negative factor for Discouraged Job Seeker.

1.  Email solution

a.  Develop separate email address. When an employer advertises a position that's available, a separate email address can be set up for that position. Most computer servers have developed an easy method to adapt email addresses.

b.  Create a standard response. Most email programs have an automatic method for responding to messages received. It is usually to inform the sender that the person is away on vacation, and may not get back to the email for some time. We suggest that it be used to inform applicants the following:

1.  Their application has been received by the appropriate employer.

2.  The approximate length of time for them to wait before interviews would be set up. After that time, it would be likely that they would not be the successful candidate.

3.  The protocol the organization has to deal with unsuccessful applications received. Indication of respect for privacy and confidentiality issues should be included – i.e. ‘held for six months, then permanently deleted and shredded if printed.”

The tone should be respectful and recognize the time and effort taken by each applicant. Any individualized adaptation of this protocol to meet the needs of the employer could be considered.

2. Job bank solution

One suggestion was that the Government of Canada's job bank creates a section where the employer would send a quick email indicating that a suitable candidate has been found. Access to this would be made to all job seekers

SUMMARY                                                                                                                        

The area of Employment Recruitment appears to offer the greatest opportunity for adaptation to facilitate removal of barriers that create the sense of discouragement that we heard from participants. It also appears to be an area that adaptations could allow successful hiring of people who want to work but whose strengths are being missed.

Adaptation of the way employers recruit may lead to more successful matching. Clarity in job ads, more job-skill specific interview/screening processes may lead to more effective and efficient processes for both the employer and job seeker. Employers recognizing the importance of acknowledging receipt of applications, and informing applicants of their policies regarding such applications by making minor technical adaptation could help. A coordinated team approach of Employment Services workers, interested employers, and a representative of job seekers could develop recommendations to be implemented in Kings County.

RECRUITMENT; A LOCAL SUCCESS STORY                                                                 

Peter had worked for an organization that specialized in working with people with challenges. He had been away from work for over two decades due to mental health issues, addictions and time for rehabilitation to become stable.

The initial interview with the potential employer was set up by one of his support workers. The employer had his resume and they were made aware that he had some mental health issues before meeting him. He was told that he was going in for an initial chat to see if they should move forward with a formal interview. He therefore was more relaxed. It was brief: they asked him some specific questions about his experience with the work required in the position. They then took him on a tour of the production facility. They asked him about whether he thought he could fit and had a discussion about where he would fit in.

In the second interview he was trained by one of the other workers on the job he would be doing. At the end of that time he was told he had the job. The only adaptation he needed was for the employer to let him go to his regular medication adjustment appointments without deducting pay. He worked there for over two years until he lost the job due to reduced work availability. Since then he has been unable to find any similar supportive employment, works at piecework when he can, and earns significantly less than minimum wage. Clearly he is a dedicated, committed worker with the work ethic employers told us they had a hard time finding.

Given Peter’s extremely challenging background, we feel his experience with this organization’s recruitment process reflected a significant difference in outcome from the experience of many we spoke to. It would seem to follow that if other employers recruited workers with similar creativity many of the participants we interviewed could find gainful employment and employers the dedicated workers they need.



[1]HRSDC Website: http://www.jobsetc.gc.ca/eng
[2] “Finding a Job” Career Workshop, April, 2008 Kentville Career Resource Centre
[3]A long time employment support worker. The negative impact on applicants when they received no response from employers was the first concern she mentioned when we asked her about her views on employment issues.



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